Occasionally I play videogames like "Rome: Total War" or "Black & White 2", and whenever I see large scale battles being fought in real-time on my modest personal computer I am reminded of the epic movies of the fifties and sixties. The leaps and bounds with which this technology has evolved is astounding.
I first wanted this Twitch-O-Meter to be about computer enabled battles, but I was soon drowning in titles. Computers now play an essential part in every movie which needs huge crowds: it's cheaper to render them than to rent them. Be it Goth warriors battling Romans in "Gladiator" or Chinese eh... military consultants crossing the Korean border in "Taegukgi", computer generated battles are now quite common.
But the biggest added value of the use of computers is the total freedom it allows the director, and especially in the genres of Science Fiction and Fantasy this relatively new tool has eagerly been used to show us battles that REALLY couldn't be done otherwise.
So this list will be about Computer Enabled Fantastic Battles. I mean, Stanley Kubrick showed the world what amazing things you could do with 8500 extras in "Spartacus", but without computers even he would have had a problem with the smallest of skirmishes in my top 5.
5: The Star Wars prequel trilogy.
I'll be the first to admit that there are basically three "StarWars" movies, and episodes 1, 2 and 3 aren't them. So let's put that whole discussion aside and focus on the sheer spectacle on display in the prequels. George Lucas got a new set of toys from his effects company ILM to use for the prequels, and he famously kept fiddling with them until the last minute before release. The results are there: each special effects moneyshot of these new movies is gorgeously composited. You can hang them on a wall, framed, and the battle scenes really show that. Robots, clones, tanks, monsters...seeing this in a cinema really pays off.
4: Starship Troopers.
Whether you liked this very sarcastic look on war propaganda or not, in 1997 you were impressed by the battlescenes in (Sir) Paul Verhoeven's "Starship Troopers". You had to be, or you had no business watching a science fiction movie with aliens in it in the first place. Phil Tippett was allegedly depressed when stop-motion died during "Jurassic Park", but only a few years later he delivered absolutely masterful work with the animation of the lethal giant bugs in this film. The aspect ratio allegedly needed to be changed from 2.35:1 to 1.66:1 so rendering times on the busiest shots could be decreased. Still, the shot of the shuttle escaping the overrun base took three months to render because of the thousand individually animated bugs on display. Respect! Speaking of bugs...
3: Antz
It was Dreamworks versus Pixar and everyone won, because we got two good pictures out of it: both "A Bugs Life" and "Antz" are a joy to behold and both were at the top of computer animation, although they took vastly different design paths. The Dreamworks team made little use of bitmapping and shadows, causing the always demure Steve Jobs of Pixar (yes, AND Apple) to state in interviews that "Antz" looked like crap. Well, Steve might have had the slightly better picture with the vastly larger box office, but "Antz" didn't look anything like crap. And it won on crowd scenes. It featured not only a bloody battle between millions of ants versus thousands of monstrous termites, but next to that they also had some fun with the toolset, creating cones of ants and in one remarkable scene even a wrecking ball.
2: The Matrix Revolutions
If "Antz" showed that you could have fun by taking crowds into 3D, the Wachowski brothers took that thought a lot further and created whole 3D battlefields for "The Matrix Revolutions".The attack of 250.000 flying robotic squids is a sight to behold. Sometimes they travel in schools or clouds, then they form snakes, and in the movie's biggest "we're screwed" moment they form a giant hand. With the defense being a few hundred frail-looking battlemechs this war suddenly looked absolutely awesome, and hopeless.
1: The Lord of the Rings
If there is one director who meticulously looked into every nook and cranny of "how to use computers to do a fantasy battle" it must be Peter Jackson. Now I'm far from the biggest fan of his "Lord of the Rings" movies, in fact I find the extras on the extended edition DVDs more interesting and entertaining than the films themselves. But I forgive him a lot just for allowing me to watch a full-fledged Minas-Tirith battle in the cinema.The sheer amount of screentime given to crowded battles is amazing, no expenses spared. The first movie immediately starts with a nice sign of things to come, with the shot of Sauron's explosion containing more than a 150.000 people. The second movie had nice battles at the end. But "Return of the King" just blew everything else out of the water. Minas Tirith, and later the even larger (but far shorter) battle at the gates of Mordor, are unmatched.
This concludes my list, and if you spot any serious oversights please mention them! If it's a film I haven't seen yet I'll be very grateful indeed if you point me toward it.
You forgot the fish-slapping dance.
Actually, I forgot a couple:
"The Great Yokai War" by Miike Takashi. And the Narnia films. Riddick. Several anime movies... ah well. Can't win them all, and I never said this was a definite top 5.
And I'm serious: please mention any title which has a scene in it like in the movies mentioned above. Because i love that stuff.
Webmonkey dave, which of the many fish-slapping dance movie titles do you have in mind?
I whole heartily agree with Starship Troopers, one of my favorite films. The CGI in that is still amazingly real, especially when you consider the fact that most of the film takes place in sunlight, which was allot harder for those guys ten years ago. Superb stuff.
As for huge battle scenes. Troy, 300, Kingdom of Heaven and Black Sheep, all films I have yet to see though, aside from Kingdom.
Chen Kaige's THE EMPEROR AND THE ASSASSIN (Jing ke ci qin wang)had a massively multiplied marching army sequence which blew my mind for scope the first time I saw it. That sort of thing wasn't done so much in 1998, even in Hollywood and especially not in Chinese art films!
Even more amazingly THE EMPEROR AND THE ASSASSIN didn't have a drop of CGI in it. Still one of my favorite historical epics.
I'd add CURSE OF THE GOLDEN FLOWER and HERO to the list. I know there's more as welll.
Good topic.
Well, it's like I said. I wanted to cover conventional battles as well but I soon ended up with WAY too many titles, so I decided to do only SF and fantasy.
But please post the "normal" battles as well, I'm taking notes!
And I will definitely look up a good DVD of "Emperor & Assassin".
Not so sure if I would say Hero, but totally Curse of the Golden Flower. Hero had massive armies, no doubt, but not really any battles using 'em.. just them launching a ton of arrows, maybe a small skirmish from what memory serves though.. eh, been a while, could be totally wrong.
But man did I love the battle in Curse of the Golden Flower.
Here's another one the live action Casshern. Had the main character in a killer scene (the only reason I even own the movie) tackling a CGI army of robots with very heavy metal background music.
RAN by KUROSAWA the attack on Hidetora's Castle.
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