INTENDED JOKE OMITTED BECAUSE IT HAS BEEN MAKING PEOPLE CRANKY.
We have found out that both provinces are the two hot spots for film piracy in Canada. There is enough of a stigma about Canada and pot-cams. Even though the finger is pointed at us, just how much piracy happens in Canada is up for debate. Regardless, this I didn't know, I read in one fo the local papers today that studios watermark the prints of their films so they know where each print goes and citing these watermarks they have uncovered that the most pot-cams in Canada come from Alberta and Quebec. Thanks guys.
So what has happened? Warner Bros. has been the first studio to pull all advance and word-of-mouth screenings from Canada. This starts with Oceans Thirteen [shouldn't we be thanking WB?] and will include the next Harry Potter film [boo friggidy hoo]. Over the last 18 months roughly 70% of Warner Bros. titles released have been camcorded in Canada. Other studios may follow their example. 20th Century Fox has already touted the idea of delaying releases in Canada.
Despite evidence given, Canada has not adopted a federal law making camcording illegal or permitting the confiscation of equipment. Canada simply does not have legislation against pot-cam offenders. As a result we have become the main scapegoat for most of the world’s film piracy.
Unfounded or not. Even if it is just a bunch of finger pointing and the ol' Blame Canada game, piracy sucks and you pot-cam losers are ruining it for the rest of us, regardless where you live.
Monsters and Critics article
TorontoSun article
TorontoStar article
''Unfounded or not. Even if it is just a bunch of finger pointing and the ol' Blame Canada game, piracy sucks and you losers are ruining it for the rest of us.''
I TOTALLY agree with the above.
''No one else in Canada likes Quebec because, well, they're French, and they're always threatening to leave the country like a small child threatens to run away from home.''
Did I've missed something here? Since when do we have to share (Twich web site) our personal political view on this great web site?
Like religion, political comments can lead to a lot of... well you know what. Honestly, I think that it's not the place to discusse that kind of subject.
Mack, your comment was gratuitous, kind of racist and without any objectivity.
Eric. I think you missed the sarcasm on display from our in-house humourista. The comments (I'm pretty sure) were meant to be tongue in cheek...
do pot cam recordings really effect business that much? Do movies like Harry Potter really gonna lose significant business because of it? it is theft and all but seriously many movies im glad i screened first and never paid the makers a cent because the movie was crap and they deserved to be ripped off....instead of ripping off viewers.
need that white trash money?...i knew a woman who bought a bootleg of Polar Express to show her nieces and nephews at Christmas...nothing creates christmas nostalgia like being babysat by a crappy version of a less crappy movie.
"Ruining is for the rest of us." ???
I love movies, seriously, but come on, THEY'RE ONLY MOVIES !! What does it matter to you if you see it a week or two after some other people on the planet? If it's a good one, it's worth the wait. If it's a crappy one, who gives a damn?
Tongue in cheek indeed. Quebec is awesome. You only have to be 18 years old to go to clubs. They have an awesome music scene. Anytime a Canadian wins an Oscar you know they are Canadien. They have Just for Laughs. They have FantAsia. They gave us Poutine for cripes sake. My comments were blatent and deliberate only in their intent to solicite laughs. And where the hell is Western Canada on this? Too busy collecting your provincial gov't bonus checks for all the hard work the newfoundlanders are doing in your oil sand pits?
And please explain how Mack's comments were racist?
Well you know...he called Quebecers the "F" word.
It's because of people like you that we want to separate from Canada. No one like Quebecers because we are french!?! That's low... Let me remember to you that you guys came in thousands from all around the Canada to tell us how much you "loved us" and that you didn't want us
to leave in '95 at the last referendum. What p*sses you off is that you know you need us!
an angry "french" guy
"French" is not a race. Come on guys, this is general knowledge!
Everyone knows it's a religion.
Well, thanks for that, evidently all english speaking candians have some problem with Quebec. What do you mean exactly by "they speak french"? The fact that some people are pirating movies because of the lack of legislation, doesn't mean all quebecars are losers. So try to be less offending on your site, I think it's about movies.
Calm down people. It was a joke.
What is wrong with being French??
This is just the latest tactic being used by the MPAA to force the issue thru the parlement. They've never liked the way we've run the movie industry, like the fact that we have the right to make personal copies of anything we own, but never do they talk about the levies that we pay on certain items like blank dvds or camcorders.
I think Canada should study the issue of the copyright act and come up with an update that balances the rights of average Canadians and the the giant american industry.
LOL...come on over to the US Mack we love to bash the French..seriously piracy is not cool fool ;)
All Canadians, Québécois and otherwise, need to pay attention to Bman for a moment. This is TOTALLY the MPAA using FUD to try and pressure your government into creating some sort of f***ed-up DMCA-style atrocity of a law. The DMCA sucks and you want no part of anything that's even similar to it. Trust me: I'm an American who breaks the law every time he plays a DVD on his Linux-based computer in the living room because all DVD player software for Linux is ILLEGAL in America thanks to DMCA. Fight back, do not let US media corporations curtail your rights up there in a country I greatly admire.
If you believe that camcorder bootlegs of first run movies actually have a meaningful effect on the grosses, really think about it for a moment. Would you even want to share space in a movie theatre with anyone who's tacky and stupid enough to think that the cam bootleg experience was in any way comparable to the real theatrical experience? No, I'm sure you'd rather they stayed home and watched their crappy bootleg with their screaming kids and their mid-feature phone conversations and all the other things they're likely to do in that movie theater to piss you off.
The MPAA is not to be trusted and anything coming from that "organization" ought to be viewed with extreme skepticism. The RIAA, of course, is far worse.
Johnes, Andrew Atkins, Psychoper AND Eric,
There is absolutely nothing wrong with either being French, speaking French, or living in Québec.
However,
There is something wrong with visiting an English-based website without having the comprehension of English to understand sarcasm, jilted point-of-view as a way of satire, and self-deprication, AND THEN continue to complain about these things.
No-one here has been saying unkind things about people from Québec from their own viewpoint. In fact, the only people who have a -tiny- bit of right to be offended should be the rest of Canada because Mack alluded to most of them having some vague "anti-Québeckian" feelings. For all I know he might be right in thinking that. And if you can prove otherwise, please do so.
Try to be less offended when traveling the internet, there's hostility enough out there without adding to it over such a senseless issue as an offhand remark.
The important thing is that we change nothing to our laws due to the petty pressures of movies makers. Our elected government is here to do what they think is best for us. We never elected them to pass laws that please Warner Brothers and cie.
I'd love to see this backfire on them. You think we cannot make good movies here in Canada? I'll use those $10 I would have spent on Harry Potter's latest more-of-the-same episode on a Canadian film instead.
Take that.
Besides, if there is one thing I've learned about movie piracy, it's that if it becomes too complicated (or impossible) to get sources for a film in Canada, they will come from somewhere else. Piracy is inevitable. It is not a cause or a symptom, it's the direct result of the movie industry as it is today.
"No one else in Canada likes Quebec because, well, they're French, and they're always threatening to leave the country like a small child threatens to run away from home."
Sarcastic or not Twitch deserves better then lame ass "opinions" like that.
For what it's worth... Speaking as someone who was born and raised in Quebec and lived in Alberta for 10 years, I wasn't offended.
I guess it's a touchy subject for a lot of people though, and jokes about it should probably be avoided :P (The Quebec thing I mean... Alberta can shove it. Moving away from there was the best thing I ever did.)
Dear Ardvark,
The text I've read doesn't seem to have a sarcastic subtone to it and believe me... I know what sarcasm is. Mack, with no offence, calls them loosers in the last paragraph and I don't find it a bit sarcastic. Anyway...
Why do you play a devil's advocate? Everyone makes mistakes, this seem to be one... well, it's actually not a big deal because this site is about movies, you know.
Jesus. I guess we have to implement "smileys" after each sentence so people will "get it", like putting laugh tracks in sitcoms so people will know where the jokes are.
I am a sarcastic person by nature and I got this right away. If this was an American run site I would have understood why people would get their panties in a bunch because many Americans usually have a hard time grasping sarcasm and often take is as someone's actual viewpoint. While I was in the states I was constantly in trouble for being sarcastic or ironic in conversations because people actually thought I was being serious about certain things.
Sarcasm is really hard to pull off in text form because many people don't know how to read in to it or write it but Mack pulled it off.
I mean come on, what self respected website would post such nonsense if it's writer were serious about it.
P.S.
I love Canada, Only been to Toronto, Isn't that one with the steam clock in the center and the nude beach?
Hmmm, the stupid part of the article to me is not the "racism" or whatever, but the idea that it would take "balls" to implement a law against piracy.
Seems to me it takes bigger balls to NOT do it. First, the strength of the Canadian dollar has already driven to many productions out of Canada which is effectively killing the Canadian film industry. Now, you KNOW that the American studios are not happy with the Canadian law. So, once again, I don't see how it takes balls to not "outlaw" piracy.
Well, maybe me french speaking guy, don't understand very well english, but I really can't find the sarcasm in the "loosers sentence'. Don't get me wrong, it is not so much of a big deal to me, but come on, everyone knows that quebec has it's touchy points, so what's the need here to go there? Blame the legislation if you want, why do you have to blame the people? How many of us are recording?
And Ardvark, of course there's plenty of hostility on the internet, but I don't like to see it on my prefered movie website.
Let's just keep it about movies here, legislation maybe, and put aside the french speaking losers.
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