Ryan Nicholson's LIVE FEED, w/ Stephen Chang, Taayla Markell, Kevan Ohtsji, Rob Scattergood, Ashley Schappert, Caroline Chojnacki, Lee Tichon, Mike Bennett, Colin Foo, Greg Chan, Patrick Pon, Mike Wu, Hansen Li, et al.

Hostel rip off Crap crap crap. I wonder why Twitch is even bothering to post something like this.

On what do you base your allegation that Live Feed is a "rip off" of Hostel? When was Live Feed shot? When was the screenplay for it written? (Hostel had its world première at the Toronto International Film Festival on September 17th of last year.) It appears that your allegation is "crap crap crap."

I think it's pretty clear why I think it's a Hostel rip off. Friends traveling in a foreign country get caught up in a snuff ring and get offed one by one in special torture rooms.
Why don't you enlighten me when the film was shot and written. I think you are a bit touchy touchy touchy for some reason. Connected to the film maybe?

And Hostel is a rip of other films as well. One in particular is Demonlover.

Eli Roth just plainly sucks as making films. He should stick to comedy at least.

Swarez, on what do you base your allegation that the plot of Live Feed involves the five friends "get[ting] caught up in a snuff ring"? If one removes that unsubstantiated allegation from your plot synopsis, one is left with this: "Friends traveling in a foreign country... get offed one by one in special torture rooms." Also, what is the difference between "special" torture rooms and ordinary ones, and on what do you base your allegation that the plot of Live Feed involves the former? If one further removes the word "special" from your synopsis, one is left with this: "Friends traveling in a foreign country... get offed one by one in... torture rooms." Keep in mind that you criticized Live Feed as being a "rip off" of Hostel - not as having a generic plot.



As I noted in my previous message, Hostel had its world première at the Toronto International Film Festival on September 17th of last year. When do you imagine that the Nicholsons ripped it off? Before September 17th of last year? Some time between then and its general theatrical release in Canada and the U.S. on January 6th of this year? After January 6th of this year?



I don't like unsubstantiated criticism, such as your statement in your original message, "Hostel rip off Crap crap crap." If that makes me "a bit touchy touchy touchy", so be it.



With regard to your asinine suggestion that, because I asked you what you based your "rip off" allegation on, I may be "connected to" Live Feed, Caterpillar recently wrote the following here in response to a Twitch article of mine on Ryûichi Honda's Chäin 2 (Chên: rensa jusatsu): "So this is a rip-off of ONE MISSED CALL?" I wrote the following in reply: "To quote from my abovelinked Twitch article from September 8th of last year, Atsushi Shimizu's Chäin (Chên) 'premièred at the Cinema Shimokitazawa in Tokyo on July 19, 2003, and was released on sale DVD (BBBJ-3753) in Japan on September 25th of that year.' Takashi Miike's One Missed Call (Chakushin ari) - a.k.a. 'You've Got a Call' - premièred at the 16th Tokyo International Film Festival (Dai-16-kai Tôkyô Kokusai Eigasai) on November 3, 2003." Feel free to asininely suggest that I may be "connected to" Chäin 2 as well....

I don't know if you realise but films take a time to make, they don't just suddenly appear when they are released. The plot to Hostel had been around for more than a year before it was released and was widely available in the media. People making obvious crap like the above mentioned Live Feed see that a high profile director is making a film and see a chance to cash in on its popularity (what ever that might be in the end) and throw in more T&A just to sweeten the deal.
The poster is designed to look like a Hostel poster, with the chair and the leather clad torturer and the plot smells like it too. I'm sure that the cover will proudly proclaim that this film will be in the tradition of Hostel and maybe even Saw.

I'm criticising this because everything about this film smells and looks like rip off shit. But I'm mostly wondering why this is even here on this site. That's my opinion and I'm entitled to it. Is it rash for me to think so? Probably because I haven't seen the final product but nothing about its presentation makes me want to. It looks like amateur hour at the Apollo. If this film turns out to be a masterpiece I'd be the first one to admit it but I seriously doubt it will be anything more than a waste of time.

Oh and my "allegation" (are we in court here?) about the plot and the "snuff ring" is simply taken from the trailer, the plot description and the name of the fucking film. It's pretty obvious people are being abducted, tortured and killed while being filmed. Hence the name Live Feed.

Hey Swarez,

Do your fucking research before you call my film "Live Feed" a rip-off of Hostel. In fact, I could accuse "Hostel" of ripping me off. Live Feed was announced on www.fangoria.com back in 2004 before anyone knew of Hostel, in fact, Hostel wasn't even announced until later on in the Spring of 2005.

I'm so fucking pissed off that you don't do your research and have the balls to argue on this subject even. Hostel ripped off from other pictures, including mine and "The Chair" Don't you think Eli Roth reads the Fangoria News? He does and so does Tarantino, they probably liked my idea, took it and a 5 million dollar budget and came up with Hostel. This stupid bullshit about them finding the idea from some website ad that says people can pay for torture is BS. So is your obvious lack of knowledge on the subject of "Tourists in Trouble" movies. A few have been done way before mine such as "Tourist Trap" "The Hills Have Eyes" etc... This isn't new territory. If you're going to call my film a rip off, please accuse me of "paying homage" to the appropriate films.

Go on the www.fangoria.com site and look in the archives you dipshit and do your research next time before you go making wise ass comments. I could've made a bigger deal when "Hostel" came out about ripping me off, but very few people, only a couple of hardcore horror reviewers had the privilage of seeing my film before "Hostel" even screened.

Oh, thanks Twitch for sticking up for a no-budgeter like Live Feed when the bigger budget Hostels and Saws get all the fucking cred. But the true hardcore horror fans know where the street cred is, not this wise ass Swarez. Oh, BTW, chairs aren't anything new in horror movies, remember the infamous bone throne in TCM? Hostel doesn't even showcase the chairs they employ in the torture whereas my chair is a real working device. Want to take a seat Swarez!? lmao! I'm not re-inventing the fucking wheel here, I'm making a balls out gorefest that was in the can long before Hostel saw the light of a projector and yes it is my first feature so call me amateur and I do in fact love the apollo although I'm a whitey!

Truly and angry,
Ryan Nicholson
writer/director "Live Feed"

"Ryan Nicholson, president of the Flesh & Fantasy makeup FX company, has formed the Plotdigger Films production outfit and will make LIVE FEED his feature filmmaking debut. Nicholson will direct the film from his own script, about 'a group of tourists who end up fighting for their lives after ending up in the wrong place at the wrong time. The film will bring back the gory glory days of grindhouse cinema and Ryan promises to deliver the visceral goods when it comes to the gore content!' according to the press release. Nicholson plans to start shooting the movie in early 2005." - Fangoria article "FX artist Ryan Nicholson to helm LIVE FEED", October 27, 2004



"Variety reports that CABIN FEVER's Eli Roth has written and will direct HOSTEL for Screen Gems and producer Mike Fleiss, who was behind the TEXAS CHAINSAW MASSACRE remake and is currently working on its prequel. Fleiss and his Next Entertainment partner Chris Briggs came up with the idea that Roth turned into a screenplay; no details on the story have been announced other than that it's about a young man traveling abroad, but we'd guess that he winds up staying at a hostel where scary things start happening." - Fangoria article "Eli Roth opening HOSTEL", March 9, 2005

Whoa, seriously what is with the hostility here? Both Live Feed and hostel are good horror movies...but in no way the first of their kind, if you were going to rant about Live Feed being a rip off of hostel then you mine as well say that Hostel was a rip off of Texas Chainsaw massacre or anything by Rob Zombie. If you were going to accuse any movie of being a rip off of another then why not just take every horror movie that has been made after the original Dracula back in the what? 1920's and say that every movie ever made after that one was a rip off of that first horror movie...

Live Feed is no a rip-off, and neither is Hostel, they are both equally entertaining movies that have their own unique take on a storyline of friends on vacation that end in a blood bath.

Just calm down and enjoy the wonderful thing that is hollywood..